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Re: The Big Melt 11 months, 4 weeks ago #15550

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Re: The Big Melt 11 months, 1 week ago #15571

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Currently at Extremes:

According to satellite data, we are at record high global average temperatures (2010) and record low Arctic ice extent for this time of year. And ice extent now is way below the 2007 level, the year that set the record for the September/annual minimum ice extent.

discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/
arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/arctic....ice.interactive.html

...that's all unofficial, subject to calibration etc.
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Re: The Big Melt 11 months ago #15582

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Illegal for Sea Level to Rise in North Carolina.

In one US state, it is now illegal for sea level rise to speed up. Although climate models predict that sea level rise will accelerate over the coming decades, North Carolina's state senate has passed a bill saying that its Division of Coastal Management cannot "include scenarios of accelerated rates of sea level rise".


www.newscientist.com/article/dn21951-the...olina.html?full=true

It would be funny if dults like these didn't dominate the legislative branch in this country. But at least they didn't legislate that sea level isn't rising - so I guess that passes for progress these days.

a lighter take on the issue...
www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report...-word---sink-or-swim
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Re: The Big Melt 7 months, 1 week ago #15662

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Occam wrote:



A new record loss of the icecap this season.

Re: The Big Melt 6 months, 2 weeks ago #15891

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Why Seas Are Rising Ahead of Predictions: Estimates of Rate of Future Sea-Level Rise May Be Too Low


ScienceDaily (Nov. 1, 2012) — Sea levels are rising faster than expected from global warming, and University of Colorado geologist Bill Hay has a good idea why. The last official IPCC report in 2007 projected a global sea level rise between 0.2 and 0.5 meters by the year 2100. But current sea-level rise measurements meet or exceed the high end of that range and suggest a rise of one meter or more by the end of the century.




www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121101153549.htm

Re: The Big Melt 4 months ago #17310

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Occam wrote:
Why Seas Are Rising Ahead of Predictions: Estimates of Rate of Future Sea-Level Rise May Be Too Low


ScienceDaily (Nov. 1, 2012) — Sea levels are rising faster than expected from global warming, and University of Colorado geologist Bill Hay has a good idea why. The last official IPCC report in 2007 projected a global sea level rise between 0.2 and 0.5 meters by the year 2100. But current sea-level rise measurements meet or exceed the high end of that range and suggest a rise of one meter or more by the end of the century.




www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121101153549.htm
That's odd. NASA JPL just acknowledged recently that sea level rise has been erroneous; there is no accelerating rise and even using the inflated data clearly shows it is decelerating. Honest people can read about it here:
wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012...9-bar-sever-pr51.pdf


Note that GRACE has been determined (known for years) to be contributing spurious sea level rise. GRACE has also been used to justify OHC increases since 2006. In the coming year the entire sea level budget will need to be reanalyzed. Watch in the coming months. Your source is full of crap.


How fraudsters play the game and brainwash kids (and useful idiot adults):
epa.gov/climatechange/kids/impacts/signs/glaciers.html
Glaciers all over the world have been melting for at least the last 50 years, and the rate of melting is speeding up. Many glaciers in Alaska and other parts of the United States have shrunk dramatically.

Start with a 1940 photo


Jump to a 2004 photo


Don’t show the 1950 photo, which shows that most of the melt occurred during the 1940s
gallery.usgs.gov/images/climate_change/2...Field%20-%201950.jpg



Don’t show the map which tells us that two thirds of the glacier’s retreat occurred before 1880



Gee Occam, did history begin in 1979? 80% of glacier melt occurred well before 1960, probably before 1950.
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Re: The Big Melt 4 months ago #17311

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www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montan...a9-001cc4c03286.html

The recent news release concerning the melting glaciers in Glacier National Park seems somewhat deceptive. I am a National Park Service retiree. I started my career in Glacier National Park in 1963 and attended my first park staff meeting in September of 1963.

At that meeting the United States Geological Survey staff presented the results of their annual glacier monitoring program and reported that the park glaciers were continuing to shrink. They assured the park staff that the glaciers would eventually disappear, but would not make any time predictions.

The park superintendent thanked the USGS for their effort and took the opportunity to remind the staff that the park was named Glacier because of the park topography that was formed by the action of continental glaciers thousands of years ago, not because glaciers existed in the park. It was understood and accepted by the National Park Service and the United States Geological Survey that the park glaciers were a remnant of the last ice age and would eventually melt.

It is disconcerting to hear government professionals now blame the ice melting on anthropogenic (man-caused) global warming.

The USGS wondered 50 years ago why glaciers remained in the park when the mountains north and south of the park at the same elevations did not have glaciers. The USGS of 50 years ago also would not have claimed that the disappearance of glaciers would result in uncontrolled wildfire threats. A review of the hydrology involved is needed.

The park master plan that was in place at the time specified a visitor center at the foot of Lake McDonald and the park staff was recommending an audio-visual presentation in a theater facing the head of the lake. The presentation would illustrate on screen a glacial landscape followed by movement and melting of the ice and finally curtains would open to show the existing landscape.

One of the objectives was to show the park visitor what a glacier was and could do, because it was understood that they would soon be gone.

Re: The Big Melt 4 months ago #17312

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Occam wrote:
Illegal for Sea Level to Rise in North Carolina.

In one US state, it is now illegal for sea level rise to speed up. Although climate models predict that sea level rise will accelerate over the coming decades, North Carolina's state senate has passed a bill saying that its Division of Coastal Management cannot "include scenarios of accelerated rates of sea level rise".


www.newscientist.com/article/dn21951-the...olina.html?full=true

It would be funny if dults like these didn't dominate the legislative branch in this country. But at least they didn't legislate that sea level isn't rising - so I guess that passes for progress these days.

a lighter take on the issue...
www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report...-word---sink-or-swim
It would be sobering if dults didn't believe everything they read.

Cherry picking start dates is fun isn't it? Sea level rise is decelerating.
wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/01/part-2-of...st-of-north-america/
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Re: The Big Melt 3 months, 3 weeks ago #17456

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Obviously what we need is a new sea-level tax. Any sea that continues to rise will have to pay it's fair share.
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Re: The Big Melt 3 months ago #17916

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Largest Glacier calving caught on film........awesome.

www.youtube.com/embed/hC3VTgIPoGU?rel=0
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