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Thanks for the help blume. I cleaned the air wash and I usually do when I clean the stove. I had to slow the exhaust fan down a little and bump up the feed rate in the fuel table with bixcheck.
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Burnplate gasket
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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thanks anyway steadywoman I appreciate it
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Burnplate gasket
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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No I didn't mean the air wash slot. I was talking about the rail that the gasket sits on and there is a gap between that and the wall. When I got my stove it wasn't sealed along there and I wasn't sure if it should be or not. After giving it some thought because of the problems I was having, I decided to seal it up. After sealing the gasket tight, I couldn't keep a fire going. I tried it twice and both times the fire went out maybe an hour or so after startup finished. It was like I had to much air in the burn pot and it was blowing the ash out of the pot. Even when I had it adjusted to -5 & +5 it was to much air and not enough fuel.
Thanks for the help
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Burnplate gasket
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Should the burnplate gasket be sealed tight where the gap is in the front of the stove by the door?
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Burnplate gasket
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Enerjet I think the video may be a bit misleading. I didn't shoot it straight in the window. I took it at a downward angle because I wanted to make sure to get a good view of the feed tube. In the video it does kinda look like the flame is being pushed toward the door but that is not the case or at least not normally. I usually get a fairly tall flame but it seems to go to the left. When I first started using the stove if I turned the light out at night you could see a nice round or maybe it was oval glow on the convection plates a little above the feed tube. Now it's mostly on the left plate. I have my deflector set like in this picture on Let's website. Maybe I will change the angle slightly and see if that helps with the flame going to the left.
If you watch the video again and stop it at 9 sec and 38 sec, you can see the flame looks like it touches the feed tube.
I took the feed wheel off yesterday and put it on a table per Scoops suggestion and no problem with it. It looks like it sits flat on the hopper and when I had the gasket out and was watching it feed, after the pellets dropped down the tube
and looking at the feed cup it looks like it's touching the feed bin underneath. I will try the paper test.
Thanks for helping!
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Took the feed wheel off and no problem there. We sometimes smell smoke when the stove starts or after shut down but not when the stove is running.
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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I checked the door with a piece of paper. It could pull it out but it took a little force. It seemed tighter closer to the hinge than the the handle on top and bottom of the door. I was watching the flame after you said about it pushing away from the tube and you may be right. Usually when I have a fairly large flame it goes to the left. I've seen it where it looks like it touches or almost touches the left side wall sometimes, but if you look closely in the video when the pellets feed(feeds twice)the flame is drawn toward the feed tube. I checked and didn't see a gap between the burn plates in the back.
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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This is what I've done so far. Took feeder wheel gasket off and feeder wheel not raised looked down tube and didn't see anything unusual. Had no effect on flame with gasket off(still draws toward tube). Gasket looked pretty good but switched it anyway and flame still did it's thing. Opened ash pan and felt in the black hose and got some black on my hand.
My stove does get hot. The glass and the frame of the door get really hot to where you can't put your hand on there for longer than a fraction of a second. Also, I don't know if this is normal or not, but I've seen pellets that are sitting on the burn plate burst in to flame or smolder away and become ash. Maybe someone who is a pellet burner could respond to that one. I think Corny maybe right and I don't seem to get that heat out of the stove like I should. I was running on level 6 yesterday for a while and my thermocouple was in the 104-110 range and my convection fan level hung in the 82-84 range. I have never got the fan level above 92 I think and I was on level 7 probably +5 FR.
Last night I did a manual dump and shut down the stove and after the fans shutoff, I noticed some smoke coming from the exhaust fan area but I couldn't tell where it was coming from. I took out the circuit boards and the convection fan and balled up a piece of paper lit it on fire and put it in the ash drawer. It was a little hard to tell but it looked like the smoke was coming from where the fan goes through the wall. Actually I did it twice because the first time I balled up two pieces of paper and put in the ash drawer. There was so much smoke coming out it was a big cloud and I couldn't hardly see. Even with just one piece of paper it puts out quite a bit of smoke.
I was looking up where the convection fan goes and saw where the feed tube goes through. The feed tube kinda looks like two pieces with a big spring on it. Is it possible that when the fan is running, it's blowing air down the tube or around it and that's why my flame looks like it's being blown around? When I have a fairly big flame it seems to go to the left(I must have a liberal stove Corny since it likes to go to the left). I will test this when I put it back together by heating the thermocouple so the fan comes on and put a candle or something by the feed tube.
I took my exhaust cap back off to see if it was blocked but my flash light wasn't real bright and I couldn't see.
So right now my stove is off, the circuit boards and the convection fan are out and I'm just waiting to figure out what my next move is.
I appreciate all the help I've been getting
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Didn't get a chance to take the hose off yet
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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ok, I took the filter off and the temp dropped a couple degrees and when I put the filter back in it went back to where it was. I took the side off where knobs are and it didn't really do anything and I put it back on. I took the side off where the exhaust fan is and it dropped 15* and went backup 5. I put the side back on and by the time I was done putting the screw in temp rose back to where it was.
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Corny I took my vent cap off and shone a light in it but I couldn't see the end. I doubt it's clogged with sealant, I put the sealant on the outside of the inner pipe about half inch or so back from the edge. I was running bixcheck again today even on level seven the thermocouple never got above 122 and the circulator fan level above 91. When outside temps are below 30 I have trouble even keeping the room where the stove is in warm unless I'm running on level 6 or maybe 7.
I took a little video so you could see what it looks like when the flame draws toward the feed tube when it feeds pellets. Hopefully it's on here!
mr cob I just cleaned out the hopper and under the feed wheel last weekend. My exhaust cap is in an open area but it does it all the time whether the wind is blowing or not.
MaryB the pellets I'm using are fairly small and I may get a few larger ones in there once in a while but it does this evertime it feeds pellets. I have looked at the gasket before and it seems to be in pretty good shape. I do seem to have trouble getting it tuned. Seems like when the burn pot is empty it wants to run lean but once it starts to build up a little I turn up the EF some and the pot fills and I have to do a manual dump before it does one. I was hoping when I got it upgraded to 2.71 that would make it easier.
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Ok thanks for the reply but there is one thing I forgot to mention. Whenever pellets are feeding the pot, the flame really draws toward the feed tube. Not sure if this is normal or do I need to replace feeder gasket? It's been doing it since as long as I can really remember.
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Ok not sure what to make of this but I connected the cable and started bixcheck monitor. With the side side panels on and the grill temp at about 185 on level 6 and -2 +5.
I got these readings: control temp 77, thermocouple 107-110, exhaust fan speed 78-79, Circ fan level 82-83
Took off panels and this is what happened, grill temp dropped 10-12* and got these readings: control temp rose to 92 and then dropped to 71, thermocouple dropped to 98 and then came back to about same reading, exhaust fan stayed same, circ fan level 85
Put side panels back on and grill temp went back to 185 and all the readings went back to before I took panels off, except the control temp dropped to 66 before it went back to 77.
Anybody got any ideas on this?
Thanks
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Corny I'm sorry, I may not have explained it very well. I'm more concerned about the low temp I had, 165 on level 6 with a +5 feed rate and the trouble getting a good flame after start up when the panels were off. I would expect to at least be in the 180 + temps on level 6 and +5 feed rate.
I just did a pretty good cleaning over the weekend. Haven't checked in the exhaust fan or the vent pipe since I've only been burning about a month.
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Steadywoman you can find it at the link below. You can also google "thru wall fan" or the model numbers and find it cheaper. The pro model TW208P is a hard wire model and the model TW108 plugs in to an ac outlet.
www.suncourt.com/Products.html
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Video of my setup...
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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A couple hours ago I had taken the side panels off the stove while it was shut down and didn't put them on when I started it back up. Before I put the panels on the temp probe that I have in the grill was at about 165. As I finished putting on the second panel, the side where the exhaust fan is, I happened to glance at the temp probe again and it was at 182. So I took the side panel back off by the trim knobs and in about a minute or so the temp dropped and leveled off at like 172. When I put the side panel back on the temp started to climb and after a minute or so it hit 185. That was about an hour ago and I checked the temp probe it's reading 184 right now. Even though the filter in the back didn't look dirty, I put a new one on to eliminate it as a possible cause. I'm running at level 6 and -2 +5.
I started to think back to a couple of hours ago when I started up the stove with the panels off. After the compressor shut off, I was having a hard time keeping a good flame and had to adjust the EF from -2 +5 to -5 +5. After it was going for a little while I was able to adjust the EF back to -2 but the temps seemed low.
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Temperature swing
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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I didn't use the RTS and CTS wires since the stove doesn't use handshaking. That could be the problem and I've been thinking that is the most likely cause but I have no trouble with the monitor and checkout parts of the program. I also talked to a tech support rep at FTDI and he said that at the low baud rates I'm using to connect that not using handshaking should not be an issue.
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Bixcheck cable
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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I've been using the 2.02 bixcheck software but still haven't been able to upgrade. I have a second 115 in my garage that had the board out so I could send to Bixby to fix the resistor for a #3 light. I put the board back in and tried to upgrade that one which also has 2.02 on it. I'm running into same problem of not getting past the "waiting for bootloader. plug in stove".
I'm now thinking it's a communication problem between installer program and bootloader and that it's either the cable, drivers, or com port. I know it's possible but I don't think two different boards have bad bootloaders.
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Bixcheck cable
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Posted 2 years, 3 months ago
by hub0000
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Thanks Corny. Got the files and have monitor running. Nice to see some accurate data. I haven't decided whether or not to try the upgrade tonight or wait till tomorrow since temps are in the mid teens now and not sure if I want to shut it down. Will keep you posted on how it works out.
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Bixcheck cable
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Posted 2 years, 4 months ago
by hub0000
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Corny I sent you my email address.
Can't thank you enough for the help!
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Bixcheck cable
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Posted 2 years, 4 months ago
by hub0000
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