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Hi Guys,
Just starting to get cold down here and the stoves are starting to move.
I think you will find that the Nesco stoves are the same as the Pinnacle in SC. They are still in production, we received a container of 90 last week (have sold 30 all ready!).
So there are heaps of parts available. Just go to a glasier if you need a new glass, they will knock one up at bugger all cost.
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Posted 1 month, 1 week ago
by chickenman
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Hi Tinman,
It seems to me that the "I burn corn" website is a bit glitchy at the moment and sometimes I cannot get it to load at all. Once it comes up it seems to work okay.
98 degrees, yuck!!
We are in the coldest part OF Australia (except for the mountains). Heck our town is called Blowhard in Victoria (look it up, I am not joking). Now that refers to the weather not my behaviour!
So we are at the coldest time of the year at the coldest part of Australia. Now sit down for these extreme conditions....
Minimum overnight temps : 28 F
Maximum daytime temp : 53 F
We wonder how you guys cope over there. We get one inch of snow for one day every fifth year or so. And we hate it.
Having said that our average summer temp is 82 F which is not too hot. We get to an absolute max of 110 F but that is probably only for about 5 days over summer. We rarely get more than 2 days over 100 in a row.
On the news tonight we saw footage from the US showing roads buckled by the heat and bad forest fires. Out here the birds are starting to nest which could mean an early Spring. Global warming??
Hey, have any of you guys ever tried burning cotton seed? We have used Safflower and canola as part of our crushed olive pit mix but I havent tried cotton seed. I reckon the fuzzy stuff would block up but if anyone knows that would be great to find out.
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago
by chickenman
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Thanks Rob and Bio.
Price for old and new season grain is starting to ease here as we have just received badly needed rain and most wheat crops are now about 1" high.
On a side note, we have just launched our new sales company to take the responsibility off our farm. The new company is called "Multi-Fuel Heating Australia P/L."
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago
by chickenman
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Just one other thing.
I see on my earlier post that there is some kind of advertising banner at the top.
I did not put that there, I have no connection with this company, and I am sorry for it as I do not want to be putting ads in the forum.
It did not happen with the last one so maybe there was some glitch in my computer at the time that added it. I hope it does not happen again.
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 12 months ago
by chickenman
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Thanks Nogas.
It is interesting how corn is cheaper than wheat. Out here corn always commands a $100/tonne premium over wheat.
I will need to convert bushels to tonnes for direct comparison. At least the Aussie dollar is pretty much on a par with the greenback.
Just on a side note;
We are always trying different fuels in our stoves to develop new fuels out here. Our staple is feed grade wheat but our new hero fuel is a 25/75 blend of crushed olive pits/fine screenings wheat. Neither of these fuels are successful on their own but in the 25/75 combination they are better than straight feed wheat or corn. It must have to do with the starkly different burn characteristics of each.
Anyhoo, I am thinking of trying a blend with cottonseed and cannot find any info on previous trials. I cannot seem to be able to work out how to start a new topic on Iburncorn so could you advise or point me in the right direction?
It is the middle of winter here and we have been waiting for over a month for our next shipment of cornstoves. There has been a large docks strike in Panama which has disrupted US shipping for over a month. Our customers are not happy and I reckon I could have swam from the US quicker than the bloody boat!
We are getting heaps of interest in cornstoves now with sales gradually increasing as people start to understand what they are about. A couple more years and they will be a big thing in OZ I reckon as people realise how cheap and easy they are to operate compared to wood or LPG.
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 12 months ago
by chickenman
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Hope you guys get some rain because down here in Australia our winter prices reflect the US outlook. We need to buy about 400 tons of wheat to get us through to harvest in January and right now prices are up a little.
Do you know what the prices of feed wheat and feed corn is in the US?
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Posted 12 months ago
by chickenman
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Hi Wayne,
You need to tell me where you are and what you are trying to heat so I can advise you to the best sized model. I think you will be surprised by the power of the SnowFlame plus the ones you mention are the same output anyway regardless of what any of the brochures say. I think the Seraph is really only for extra large applications. Either the SnowFlame or Seraphs are fully supported by us so when they break we have the parts locally rather than trying to get them out of the US.
Drop me a note to centralvic@optusnet.com.au
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 1 year, 1 month ago
by chickenman
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Production costs in Australia are just off the planet. Plus I don't mind helping the good ol USofA out of the GFC by buying some of your stuff!!
Of course the other thing is that you guys are far more knowledgeable having been making them for years. I don't feel like reinventing the wheel.
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Posted 1 year, 1 month ago
by chickenman
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Hi Wayne,
We are near Ballarat Victoria Aus.
We import the SnowFlame cornstove to Australia. We have them as far North as Orange, far West as Adelaide, as far East as Loch Sport and as far South as Hobart. They are available Australia wide through the Ruralco/CRT chain of stores. We also import the Seraph range but they are a far more sophisticated machine which is of a power beyond what most Aussies really need.
The SnowFlame is a simple "meat and veg" machine that nearly anyone can maintain and fix if necessary.
We looked at many different types of stove before deciding which way to go, our main criteria were simplicity, reliability, service and price. I am sure that most other brands are fine, these one just suited us the best.
There are now over 60 of our stoves in the field now and by the middle of June our next shipment of 90 stoves will arrive, many of which are presold - these will definitely all be gone before the end of winter.
We have burnt both pellets and corn on trial. There is no burning issues it is just that these fuel sources are ridiculously expensive. The Yanks think I am joking when I tell then that wood pellets are $700/tonne. Even corn at $350/tonne is nuts. For the same result we use wheat at $170/tonne, works perfectly.
The good thing about cornstoves is you can try anything. We now routinely burn a crushed olive pit mix for a cooler fire and many of our customers, especially in SA, are burning triticale due to easy supply and low price.
Cornstoves are great fun, you get to go back to your caveman roots of creating fire. Not just winding up the dial on the wall plus the fuel cost are super low. We heat our house for 3/4 the price of natural gas. 1/3 the price of firewood, 1/6 the price of LPG!
Give me a call on 0438432548 and I will point you to the nearest cornstove to you. Chances are you won't have to go far...
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 1 year, 1 month ago
by chickenman
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Hi,
We have a Pinnacle 3000 cornstove and will try burning anything. The absolutely best fuel we have concocted is 25% wheat 75% brown coal chips. You would be on black coal I guess which is even better.
The coal will not burn hot enough by itself but mix a bit of wheat in and it goes great. The low level of wheat means you do not end up with a clinker so it should suit a pellet stove.
Dont worry about the naysayers, give it a go.
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 1 year, 5 months ago
by chickenman
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You should talk to friendly local coal power station and find out where they get their starter briquettes from. The bits that fall off the briquette moulds are perfect for mixing with wheat 50/50 and burn 3x as long. Out here the coal chips are half the price of wheat so it is a nobrainer if you can get it.
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Posted 1 year, 7 months ago
by chickenman
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Another thing,
With the wheat you do not need to clean it. We burn ours directly off the header, combine for youse, just make sure it is not rubbish quality. If it is feed quality it will be fine. Our motto is "If you wouldn't feed it to the chooks (chickens) don't feed it to the stove. We say minimum test weight of 68 (I have no idea how that translates to Yanky) and max moisture of 13%. Both of which are easy to get.
Try the pits though, they are the bomb!!
We have found one thing better though, a 50/50 mix of wheat and brown coal briquette chips. It does not burn any hotter but it does last 3x as long which is pretty amazing. Next week we are getting a sample of high oil canola pressings left over from the biodiesel process. The ash levels will be the problem I reckon and it won't flow so we will have to mix with a carrier. I think the wheat will be better than the pits for this.
I will report later if I don't burn the place down!
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Posted 1 year, 7 months ago
by chickenman
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Hi,
I just noticed a question in all the post from a few weeks ago, it was addressed to me but I never got it.
We have had no problems burning wheat and it does not jump out of the pot but the stove has a deflector rod just under the auger tube which slows down the drop.
We are new to burning so have been trying all sorts of stuff. After spruiking the benefits of wheat we have found something even better!!
Crushed olive pits. They are fantastic. Super easy to handle. Can be stored damp, the mice don't like them so you can just heap it up. Talk to large olive oil processors they have mountains of the stuff they they can't get rid of. Out here we get resistence from the public regarding the burning of a fuel stuff, ie wheat or corn, these pits solve that problem. Try them out they are great. With wheat we clean out the clinker every 24hrs, the pit last for 48hrs and leaves a fine ash which is easily cleaned out. It restarts no worries.
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 1 year, 7 months ago
by chickenman
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Also we are trying burning crushed olive pits of which there are thousands of tons sitting around going to waste. I am sure there would be plenty in America as it is a waste from making olive oil.
We only had 10lbs to try and are now waiting on a 200lb sample. THe small amount seemed okay but I am unsure of the ash so it will depend on the bigger burn.
If anyone has some experience I would love to hear.
We found it burns with a similar heat as wheat so that is fine.
What does it cost?
Well if we buy it in 35ton loads it is $50 per ton delivered!!
If it work okay you can guess what we will be using....
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Posted 1 year, 7 months ago
by chickenman
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Hi All,
We are half way through doing the lab tests on the SnowFlame brand corn stove to achieve Australian Standard Approval.
The interesting thing we have found is that the efficiencies originally quoted for the stove in America are excessively conservative.
We have found, burning wheat, that the efficiency on low is 97% and on high it is 90%.
Considering we only ever run on low then it is a pretty amazing result. It is the highest pellet stove performance in Australia - EVER!!
My point is that I am sure that other manufacturers of corn stoves should revisit their testing because I am sure there will be plenty of other stoves with similar, outstanding, performances.
To quote the correct performances will only improve the future for corn burning as customers come to realise how good it really is.
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 1 year, 7 months ago
by chickenman
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We store over 1,100 tonnes of grain each year. We use phostoxin (phosphine) as well. It is by far the easiest, most effective treatment and quite safe if handled with due care. You just place the pellets in a stocking and suspend in your silo. Use the correct quantity for the grain in the silo and if the silo is not sealed have good ventilation around it. You can smell the gas if it is still around, if so improve the ventilation or seal the silo.
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Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
by chickenman
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Have you guys tried burning wheat?
That is all we use in Australia as it is everywhere, pellets are ridiculously expensive, $800 per tonne and corn is nonexistent after harvest in March. Even then corn is $60 per tonne dearer than wheat so we dont bother with it.
Infact we have never tried corn!
Wheat is an international commodity so the price is the same, pretty much, around the world and you dont have to worry about some knob trying to turn it into biofuel.
We largely use feed grade wheat which costs around $200 per tonne but for next season we are investigating using screenings which are only $50-100 per tonne. Screenings are the small and broken grains that the harvester rejects and sprays back on the ground. As long as the sample is free of dirt and debris it works fine as screenings generally have a higher test weight than standard grain. The higher the test weight the better it goes through the stove.
We sell corn stoves out here and are get some resistance from buyers because we are using a feed source. Using screenings completely ends the argument as it is a waste product. Buying it from the farmer you are giving them a bit of a financial bonus and by them collecting it rather than leaving it on the ground you are taking away a food source for mouse plagues. I dont know how bad your mice get but it is a major problem here with some yields being reduced by up to 30% from mouse damage.
I would suggest you visit a local farmer or feed/flour mill and get some wheat to try. Being a poultry farmer myself I know that waving a bit of cash will get you ample supply of wheat.
A bonus with burning wheat is that when you take out the clinker and a bit of smoke gets out your house smells like you are toasting bread, yum......
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Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
by chickenman
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Hi Guys,
I have just been looking through the posts on this topic and it is quite interesting.
Down here in the Southern Hemisphere we have a different perspective on the issue. Here it is all about rising sea level and loss of farm land to aridity and erosion.
I think that the general consensis in Australia is that global warming is real but the issue is that noone wants to pay for any changes.
Australia is largely now an open cut mine for China and it massively reliant on coal for export and electricity generation. It is very difficult for us to contemplate a lower standard of living to protect the planet and our current federal government is doomed because they are proposing a carbon tax on big polluters.
Whether the tax is good or not I don't know but the massive public service army required to administer it is ridiculous. Plus all the generated carbon credits from here and around the rest of the world just provide the platform for another artificial market ,a la Wall St. There you go I have slagged off at both public and private enterprise in one paragraph!
So my point is that as individuals we have the ability to make minute changes to global warming and if you lump everyone together they start to add up. Drive a small car, use public transport, insulate your house, use a corn stove, have solar hot water, install fluoro lighting. All small things but they do add up and by doing these things you are not feathering the nest of some mega corporation or big noting your government, what you are doing is helping the environment and saving yourself money. That to me is a win/win. Even if global warming is a massive hoax, making little changes like these benefits us all.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Posted 1 year, 10 months ago
by chickenman
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Hi Again Guys,
It just astounds us how you all cope with such extreme temperature variations. And humidity... I hate humidity! We probably get temps up to 110 F for 15 days over summer but the humidity never goes over 35% so evap cooling works fine.
I am writing this at 1.30PM Saturday arvo and our current temp, mind you it is the most pleasant day we have had for a week or so, is 60 F bang in the middle of winter. They dont call Australia "the lucky country" for nothing you know.
As you may suspect "Chickenman" is in reference to the fact that I am a free range egg farmer so we actually grow 500 tonne and buy in another 500tonne of wheat per year at harvest. Our price this year was around $196US per metric tonne which is up a little. Our biggest price risk is when idiot Americans (present company excepted of course!) waste perfectly good corn on stupid ethanol. The other problem is when Wall St. hedge funds play funny buggers with world grain markets. People really do not realize what a detrimental effect these parasites have on the living standards of poorer nations around the world.
There is a saying that "when America sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold". Well the US influence is waning and China is rising but Wall St. can still stuff things up for everyone!
Anyway dont tell the tax man but actually we sneak our wheat for the corn burner from one of our 100 tonne wheat silos..free heat woo hoo.
So now we are importing 10 more corn stoves which will arrive at the end of winter (unfortunately) and we are going to try and spread the corn stove love around Oz. You never know you might be facing a "I love corn" invasion from downunder in a year or two.
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 1 year, 11 months ago
by chickenman
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Hi Brian and TF,
We are in central Victoria which is the cooler part of Australia except for the Alpine (Snowy Mountains etc) area.
We are in mid winter at the moment so average max temperature is 48 F. Not real cold by US standards I guess but cold in Australia. Many northern Australian places do not get below 68 F all year! They do have bad humidity in summer though which is awful.
Your insulation question is good (look out - you have got me on my hobby horse!) as I reckon that is the most important part of any heating/cooling system. We built our new house 3 years ago and used the following insulating tips:
The house is 32' x 120' and is located East-West to best capture winter sun and (with extended eaves) block out summer sun.
All window are double glazed Upvc.
The North facing living area has 40' of roof to floor glazing to capture winter sun on the internal 6" thermal mass polished concrete floor.
The floor is built on insulated waffle pods to aid thermal mass.
The house's stud frame has R2.5 fibreglass batts inside, the ceiling has 2 layers of R3.5 batts which I think brings the ceiling to about R5 or so.
Evap air con.
All fluoro lighting, no down lights.
Finally, and this is the biggest one of all, the external cladding is rendered 4" polystyrene which is a fantastic product to work with and provides unparalleled insulation.
I guess by now you are thinking," who is this tree hunger?" But not so. I am all for looking after the environment but if I cant get a 5 year payback then it is not on. It is very difficult to do all this stuff in an existing home and after crunching all the numbers we worked out it was cheaper to demolish our old home and build a new one on the same site, which is what we did. We transfered all the electric heatbank heating from the old house to the new and this fact tells the tale of insulation: Our new house is twice as big as the old house and requires 1/2 the energy to heat. Therefore 4x as efficient. We are still amazed. Now we dont even use the heatbanks as the corn stove is doing the job easily.
So in my opinion while the corn stove is a prince, insulation is king!!
I would be interested in your comments and how people view energy efficiency in the US.
Cheers,
Darron.
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Posted 1 year, 11 months ago
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