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Who to believe, what to believe? Something is always going on with the climate. Are we causing it? Do we truly understand what is going on? I think some have used this to get money for their research, others are on the bubble and are looking at all possibilities.
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The Big Melt
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Posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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Hey Bluewolf, hope all is well and that you just don't have anything to say lately. I can always report myself to the moderator and then he might have to show.  |
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Posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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Thanks for the information and keeping the site up John, it is appreciated. I tell anyone asking about getting a stove/furnace to check this site out. I tell them that even with high corn prices they should really look at stoves that can burn bio instead of just pellets. I worry that once the market is set with pellets that the price of the pellets will rise and we will be no better off than just running our central heat.
One thing in your stats that you might want to combine is that Bing and Yahoo searches are the same. Yahoo started moving their search to Bing a a couple of years ago. Nothing major just might show a different trend in what people are using for search engines being that Google is getting a lot of well deserved bad press. I don't use it and it wouldn't matter much because I use NoScripts, it blocks most of the crap that Google (and others) use to track your browsing. It's a little tricky to get used to but in my opinion everyone should use it to send a message that we don't need them tracking our every movement just to sell us more crap.
When using NoScripts I can set it to allow Scripts, like I have it set for this site, I want them to know I come here and the related ads are probably something I don't mind seeing and being tracked for. But just because I read a news article let's say about gambling doesn't mean I gamble, or read a story about some crazy love affair doesn't mean I'm looking for one, so I block that when reading from general news groups.
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Posted 1 month, 3 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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6039 4 Button Control Panel Fuses
Main Fuse, 250V, 7.5Amp, Buss AGC
Auger, 250V, 5amp
Room Fan 250V 5amp
Exhaust 250V 5amp
Aux 250V 5amp
These are what's on my board, USSC did change some things on these boards at times so make sure when you pull the old fuse to look at it and make sure you get the right one. May as well look at the other fuses at the same time so that you can have spares on hand. I wrote all of this on the stove paperwork so I always have it for reference. I also have a note that says that the Auger, Room Fan, Exhaust and Aux (agitator) fuse can be 0.5amp to 5 amp, I suppose that if you have a 1 or 2 amp that will fit laying around you can put it in and try it, just don't go over the 5amp or you could cause a motor problem.
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Posted 1 month, 4 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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Rosco..you might be on to the problem. With mine set on rf9 I can absolutely feel air from the stove at around 18'. Once past that point there is air movement but it might just be because that's where the rooms transition with ceilings and doorways. On rf1 I can definitely feel the air blowing at 8'.
Unlike the df when you change rf speeds you should be able to hear a difference easily. If you don't then it may not be changing speeds.
One quick kind of easy fix is to pull the side panel off and make sure the room fan/blower/cage and everything in it's path are clear and clean, this will make a big difference in how much air the fan moves through the heat exchanger. Make sure the fins don't have a build up. They are a little bit of a pain to clean but make a huge difference in air movement.
Just be careful not to bang the control board and don't touch it without discharging any static your body may have or you could fry the board and they aren't cheap.
Keep us up on what you find, everytime someone finds a fix it helps everyone here. If this is the problem then you see even seasoned burners can over look the simple obvious fix.
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Posted 1 month, 4 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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Rosco, let's try something different.
With your stove running, you said you have to have the manual draft all the way out, look at the board. Above the DF buttons there is a light, is the light blinking? At the bottom right there is a button "mode" is the Auto light or Manual light blinking?
The DF light shouldn't be blinking. The Auto light should be on. If the Auto light isn't on push the button and change it to Auto. Look at the DF light again, it should be off. With your manual draft slid all the way open the light should still be off, open one of the ash dump slides all the way out, does the DF light come on?
Close the manual draft slide all the way, the DF light should go out if it was on, now open the other ash dump slide all the way out, the light should come on again.
When you open the stove door does the DF light come on? It should.
If none of this happens when the stove is in Auto mode then the DF isn't changing speeds, when the DF light comes on it is sensing a loss of pressure (actually vacuum) and is running full tilt. If the light is on all the time then it is running full all the time.
Make sure the stove is in Auto and not Manual.
Also have you ran the draft fan test from the board. You can find it at the top of this forum in "manuals tips and tricks" it's #14 in the manual.
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Posted 2 months ago
by FirepotPete
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Thanks for the update, we always like to know the end result. Hopefully most will get their stoves running. Always good to hear of success even though it cost to fix it.
Keep warm.
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Posted 2 months ago
by FirepotPete
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I don't know what the setting numbers mean, I tried finding that out a couple of years ago and couldn't find anything online. I'm guessing it's some air flow number like cubic feet per minute.
I know I and AC would really like to see you get that stove heating the way it should. I don't know what the voltage is for the different fan speed settings but if you have a voltmeter you could test the wires that go to the motor, change the DF up and down and you should see a difference in the voltage. If not then the board isn't working right. Just something to try.
Keep us updated.
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Posted 2 months ago
by FirepotPete
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I think AC is right, you are blowing hot air out. I'm set at HR1 1.5pph, HR9 5.0pph, running on HR3 which would be 2.375pph, the temp at the furthest left vent hole is 173* the face of the stove just below the vent above the door is 195*. 50/50 mix corn/pellets.
You shouldn't have to have that manual damper open at all once the stove is burning good. My DF is set at 230 low and 260 high. When I turn the DF or HR all the way down to DF1 or HR1 mine howls just a little. Check your DF settings the manually change them down and see it you can hear a change, you may have to have another person on the right side by the DF to hear it.
How is your exhaust set up? How long, 90's, 45's.
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Posted 2 months ago
by FirepotPete
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What kind of temps are you getting on the face of the stove and do you have a meat thermometer that you can put in the holes where the heat blow out and give us those numbers?
The addition that the stove is in, what is the temp in that room? Moving air from one room to another is tricky but you should be better than what you are saying. Example: My stove is in our living room, blows towards the open dining room 20' away, then through a bedroom door and what ever is left blowing that way makes it to the bath off the bedroom and the kitchen off the dining room. Those back rooms are about 5-8* lower in temp than the dining room.
If you are running on HR8 it should be driving you out of the room it's in. Let us know those temp if you can.
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Posted 2 months ago
by FirepotPete
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Shut down this late AM to do a good weekly cleaning, temps are supposed to be in the single digits here at night this week so wanted to be sure I'm real ready.
Went to fire back up and...opps... didn't have any pellets, just pellets and corn mixed. So I put that in the firepot a little firestarter jell, lit and turned the stove on. Didn't want to start, got out propane torch, got it going (I thought), goes out again, again the torch, after several attempts it is blazing nicely, sat down in the dining room next to the living room where the stove is and I hear the stove do something I've never heard, complete shut down.
Run over with the torch, open door, look at control board E-3 error code. Once I torched it again it flamed, hit the ON button and away it went no problems.
Looking up the E-3 several things could have caused it, the stove "timed out" the board didn't see a temp of 110* within a certain amount of time and for safety it shut down!
Good to know that it does what it was designed to do.
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A first for me
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Posted 2 months ago
by FirepotPete
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I don't know, remember a few years back when the pellet prices spiked? Once they know that they have cornered the market it could make it no choice. Pellets swing as much as corn, recession slowed building and furniture making, making sawdust a premium. A lot of wood product companies are changing over to burn their own scrap for heat. It may be in the end that if you don't have access to wood to burn you'll have to go with NG, Propane, fuel oil or even worse electricity.
Also a few years ago when Europe was short on wood Shell bought so many pellets here in the U.S. and shipped them overseas and that threw the price way up.
The worse thing people can do is buy just a pellet stove, that changes the whole outlook for the market on pellets, if the pellet companies know we have a choice that would help keep prices in check, IMHO.
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Posted 2 months, 1 week ago
by FirepotPete
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I'm surprised at the number of people I talk to that have negative comments about multi-fuel stoves. These people are looking into getting pellet burners only because of what they've been told, mostly by dealers and in some cases people that had/have multi-fuel stoves and don't know how to use them and are not happy with them.
I tell them all to come to this site and read up on the stove/furnace they are thinking about buying. Do some research. At least with multi-fuel you always have the option to burn what is cheapest and available.
I just can't believe people would spent that much and not want the option of being able to burn something besides pellets.
When it's time to retire my USSC 6039HF I will look for another multi-fuel stove, it maynot be USSC or it might, but it will definitely be multi-fuel.
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Posted 2 months, 1 week ago
by FirepotPete
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Yup, without the flexible exhaust pipe hooked up to the FAK and the firepot cold air is rushing into the stove body. You are also pulling cold air through the house to feed the fire through the manual draft. If the round plug behind the firepot is removed already then some of the air is being pulled through it, just that a lot of it is flowing around inside the stove where it shouldn't.
A small but major thing to check also is the stove clean behind the fake firebrick wall and the holes on top cleared? If not the hot air won't flow through the heat exchanger. You may need to bang on the walls to get any crud that's built up from the prior owner. Brush behind it also to make sure it's clean.
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Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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I'm surprised. Your HR and DF settings are pretty good, dash not blinking. Unless the board is trash I don't know where else to go. In five years I've only ran my stove on HR7 when it's -10 and howling outside. HR9 would be putting out over 400*.
If you set the stove at HR5, then wait 10 minutes, change it to HR7 the dash should blink for about 90 seconds per HR then go solid, does it do this?
Also check out the factory trouble shooting check that is in the sticky at the top of this forum. It tells you which buttons to push to automatically go through and trouble shoot the board and all the functions.
6039 tech manuals and other tips and tricks, at the top and then #14 will walk you through it.
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Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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rosco6039 wrote:
Just got to the feed settings Hi was 5.15, low was 2.00. Should set them to 6.00 high?
I think you need to check the Draft Fan settings. Is the pipe real hot? That and the fact that you are running low on fuel in the pot might indicate it's blowing all the heat outside instead of into the room. I'd leave the HR feed rates alone for now, they aren't that out of whack to cause it not to heat better.
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Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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HR is Heat Range 1-9, DF is Draft Fan. HR feed rates are shown when you push the HR up and the AUX up button at the same time, that will show what you are burning PPH, pounds per hour on the highest HR-9 setting.
Pushing the HR down and AUX down at the same time shows the PPH on HR-1.
To change the highest or lowest feed rate (PPH) push up or down button on the AUX then push the ON button to set it at that feed rate.
Right now I'm running a mix of corn (60%) pellets (40%). My lowest setting HR-1 is set to 1.50 pph. My highest HR-9 is set at 5.00 pph.
DF setting is 230 on low, 260 on high. To change the DF (draft fan) push the Draft Fan up and AUX up at the same time, that will show you the highest DF setting, push the AUX up or down to change it and then push ON to set it. Same thing for the lowest setting DF down and AUX down and the AUX up or down to change it and then ON to set it.
I'm running right now on HR2, about 1.82 pph and the room fan on 9, I almost always run it on RF9 to strip more heat from the stove. The air coming out is about 180*.
You should be getting a lot more heat from your stove.
Keep notes on the DF and HR numbers and what you change so you can go back. If you run the room fan on Automatic it will only blow on the HR setting and heat will go out the exhaust instead of in the room.
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Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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The 6039 four button has no change from pellets to corn. You have to tweak the HR feed rates and the DF to burn good. What happens when you burn on HR2 or 3? Does the pot still go low on pellets after an hour of burning?
Are you burning corn or pellets? With corn in mine I have to set the DF lower than pellets also the feed rate is set lower.
Is the dash between the HR-9 blinking? If it is then the stove is waiting for a thermostat to ramp it up and down. If you run on HR-2 or 3 after a couple of minutes is the - (dash) still blinking? Go to HR-1 the dash should stop blinking after a couple of minutes, the ramp up to HR-3 and if it still blinks after several minutes you are missing the jumper on the board or something is wrong with the board. Maybe the jumper is just loose. Be careful touching the board, make sure you discharge any static in you body before touching it or it might fry the board and they ain't cheap.
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Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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Ha, Bluewolf and Flip tipped me off on that years ago. My stove wouldn't heat good. I'd bump up the HR and noticed it wasn't using any more corn than before. Some day that will be someone else problem so I keep throwing it out there. 
My stove was right from the factory and missing the jumper. Maybe the stove rosco got from the previous owner had the same problem and sold the stove without checking here first.
Anyway it's either the feed rates or the jumper, we will get him up and heating I'll bet. 
Nice find on the pics of the board AC, I looked around a little and couldn't find them.
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Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
by FirepotPete
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AC has you on the right track, the only thing I can add is which dashes are blinking? If the previous owner used a thermostat on the stove then maybe the jumper on the board is removed and even thou you are setting the HR rate at 9 the board is looking for the thermostat and won't run on 9. If the jumper is missing you will need to replace it before the board will adjust manually.
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Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
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