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OK Pete and AC,
I'm totally confused now.
I've removed the side panel and tried to fit a paper clip in the therm area. It wouldn't fit. The location looked like it had some kind of plastic sleeve over the 2 prongs at the therm location on the panel. I've tried to take a picture of this tiny thing.
Is this what you call a jumper? It doesn't look like the picture Pete sent me the link of a jumper to be removed to install a thermostat.
Please let me know if this is a spacer or what the heck it is and if I should try to fit either a paper clip or a wire into this thing.
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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Thank you Pete for responding. You were not online when I posted so I made a call out to the group.
I've got the stove running right now but am going to shut it down and see if a paper clip will fit. I should have tried it when AC posted but I'm a little tentative about doing anything with that control panel. I can't afford to replace it right now! LOL
Would an old video game unit (Nintendo) have a board in it I wonder? I have 2 different units in storage that I could tear apart.............mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Let me shut the stove down real quick and see if the paper clip will work. I'll let everyone know.
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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Have you had to do this AC?
And if a paper clip does NOT fit, any suggestions?
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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I need advice quickly if possible!
Firepot Pete has been helping me figure out why my 6039 is NOT putting out a lot of heat.
Yesterday he asked if I had a JUMPER on the TStat on the control panel. He sent me the link for a clear picture of the jumper in place from the old forum.
forum.iburncorn.com/viewtopic.php?t=1417...der=asc&start=45
He said that if there was no jumper in place I'm running only 1 heat setting?
Well, I shut down the stove and have the panel layed out and I DON'T have a jumper after all.
The only thing I see is the copper inlet that has a leg on each side of this plug in location. No cross member in place.
So this is my question.............can I use a paper clip to make the jumper?
US Stove told me to use one to direct wire the low limit switch until I received the new low limit switch.
Anybody run across this situation before? If so, what material did you use to make the jumper?
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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Pete,
I blew the picture I posted up on my computer and it appears the jumper is actually in place for the thermostat posts. The next time I shut down the stove to clean it, I will be taking a real close look at it to verify the jumper is there.
But oh what a difference the rubber connection caps being securely pushed down has made!!
It is wind chill 24 outside right now and in the living room/kitchen it is a balmy 74.5 degrees!!!!!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH for asking me to check for the thermostat jumper! I would have never thought to check the rubber cap connections on the stove because I just thought it was all in place from the previous owner!
Now I'm wondering if they dislodged them and the stove was heating correctly any more so they just upgraded instead of figuring out what the problem was. But then again, they don't have a FIREPOT PETE ANGEL to help them out! LOL
Thanks again for you thoughts and help!
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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FirepotPete wrote:
goode, a couple of questions. Are you actually going through a lot of pellets? When you change the HR from say HR2 to HR8 can you tell that you are going through a lot more?
The reason I ask is that there needs to be a jumper across a couple of pins on the control board by the thermostat connections, if that jumper isn't in place and you are not using a thermostat then you are just running on one heat setting no matter what you set the stove at. My stove didn't have the jumper when I got it and it drove me nut's for a couple of weeks.
Your heat output is comparable to mine on HR2 and my feed rate would be just under 2pph, that's very close to what you have set for HR1 considering I'm burning corn.
Pete,
oh yes sir ree I'm going through pellets when I change from HR2 to HR8!
Since I had shut down the stove to clean it and I read this post, I took off the side panel and took a picture of the circuit board.
I don't know if what you term a jumper is on there but there are 2 rubber snap connectors to the right of the hook up for a thermostat.
I had never looked at the circuit board before up close. When I saw the 2 rubber snap connectors I automatically tested to make sure there was a good connection. Well..................when I pushed on the first it went down a little bit and I heard a snap/lock sound. I then did the same thing to the 2nd rubber snap connector and heard a snap/lock sound.
I started the stove up and it SOUNDS different and the flame is different!!
After about 10 minutes of running on HR2, I took the temperature and got 145 degrees!
I've attached a picture of the control panel circuit board for you to look at and tell me if what I am calling rubber snap connectors the jumper you are referring to.
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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FirepotPete wrote:
goode, the different settings you are seeing for the defaults are because of different software versions in the 4 button control board. Write those numbers down so you can go back to them if needed. Set them both lower say 220 low, 260 high. See what happens.
You probably will need to play with the manual damper after changing the settings.
For some reason the heat isn't getting to the heat exchanger long enough, I think you are just blowing heat out of the exhaust.
In a previous post you mentioned that the fuel isn't coming up to the axle of the agitator. You don't need it to do that. You want it to burn without going out but not getting so much in the firepot that it doesn't burn completely. To much fuel and you will choke off the air.
With what you posted for your pph settings, on HR8 you are dumping 5.125 pph, that's way to much for the heat you are getting out.
Thanks for the information Pete! I have made note of original auto settings and have adjusted 220 low and 260 high.
My current fuel feed settings are HR1 = 2.50 and HR9 = 5.50.
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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FirepotPete wrote:
Hi goode, no don't increase your fuel rate. Although where you have it set at may not be perfect you need to get the stove running good on those settings first before changing them. You are getting no where the heat you should be getting.
First check you thermometer for accuracy. An ice bath is best but meat thermometers normally don't go that low so get some water boiling, stick it in there and you should see about 200*-220*. Altitude may change the temp at which the water boils for you, so that's why I gave you a 20* range to work with. If it's close then the thermometer is OK.
My thermometer for room air is set up just like you are doing and I'm getting:
HR2 - 180* output
HR3 - 200* output
HR4 - 230* output
HR5 - 270* output
HR6 - 290* output
I haven't had the stove above HR6 this year. And my feed rates are a lot lower than what you have set up.
What board do you have? I'm thinking it must be 4 button?
You need to post your DF high and low settings. I'm thinking that's where your problem is.
Please post the draft range settings and let's go from there.
Also on another post you asked about the insulation. I'm not sure how to spell it but KAO (kay-0) wool is what they use in the 6039hf that I have. If you know any insulators that work at power plants you should be able to get some.
Like tallcorn said, you want to insulate to keep the heat from the electronics, you can lay the KAO wool in, push it around, cut it to fit, it's nonflammable so not to worry about that.
I just found the instructions for adjusting the DF by pushing DF down and AUX down and then DF up and AUX up.
Here are the settings right now that are running on AUTO:
DF Down = 230
DF UP = 270
The information stated that the DF Down should be at 219 and DF UP should be 270.
So why the heck is my DF Down being on AUTO reading 230??
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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FirepotPete wrote:
Hi goode, no don't increase your fuel rate. Although where you have it set at may not be perfect you need to get the stove running good on those settings first before changing them. You are getting no where the heat you should be getting.
First check you thermometer for accuracy. An ice bath is best but meat thermometers normally don't go that low so get some water boiling, stick it in there and you should see about 200*-220*. Altitude may change the temp at which the water boils for you, so that's why I gave you a 20* range to work with. If it's close then the thermometer is OK.
My thermometer for room air is set up just like you are doing and I'm getting:
HR2 - 180* output
HR3 - 200* output
HR4 - 230* output
HR5 - 270* output
HR6 - 290* output
I haven't had the stove above HR6 this year. And my feed rates are a lot lower than what you have set up.
What board do you have? I'm thinking it must be 4 button?
You need to post your DF high and low settings. I'm thinking that's where your problem is.
Please post the draft range settings and let's go from there.
Also on another post you asked about the insulation. I'm not sure how to spell it but KAO (kay-0) wool is what they use in the 6039hf that I have. If you know any insulators that work at power plants you should be able to get some.
Like tallcorn said, you want to insulate to keep the heat from the electronics, you can lay the KAO wool in, push it around, cut it to fit, it's nonflammable so not to worry about that.
Yes, I have the 4 button panel.
I checked my instant read thermometer and it does register boiling point at 200 degrees.
Right now I have my stove on HR8 and I'm getting 180 degree temperature on air being blown out. I'm using Ozark hardwood pellets.
As far as my DF settings, they are on "automatic". I don't know how to find out what the high/low setting readings are. Can you send me instructions or tell me where to go so I can give you the high/low settings?
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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the bone wrote:
just use an instant read thermometer and point it right at the front of the stove just above the door.
I had been putting the shaft of the instant read thermometer inside the center blow hole.
I just took a reading with the shaft of the instant read thermometer about 3 inches away from the center blow hole and got a reading of only 130 at HR8.
with my fuel rate at HR1 2.5 and HR9 5.5..............should I increase the fuel rate???
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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tallcorn wrote:
Where are you taking the temperature? Location can make a big difference. There is a point between enough combustion air to maintain a level of burning fuel in the burn pot and too much air that is taking heat out the exhaust. A low level of burning fuel could mean too much air. Wood pellets are more forgiving when it comes to adjusting the air and you can get away with a wider range of adjustment and still keep the stove burning and not under fire or over fire. If you can, mount a thermometer so it stays in one location so you can watch the temperature change and then make small air adjustments and let the temperature stabilize between changes to see which way the temperature goes. The temperature isn't going to be steady, it is going to change because the fuel isn't fed in a steady order. This may seem like waiting for water to boil.
I'm putting the end of either the meat thermometer or the instant read thermometer in one of the 7 blow holes above the door.
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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the bone wrote:
how hot is the fire box being able to compare temp of the heated air to the heat of the firebox will help to find the problem if the fire box is hot then there is a problem with the heat exchange like a bad room fan motor clogged room air filter or something of the like.
How do I measure the heat of the firebox?
I have been looking for a magnetic thermometer to mount to the face of the stove but everyone locally is sold out right now.
All I have here are meat thermometers and an instant read thermometer.
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Posted 1 year, 3 months ago
by goode2shoes
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I've invested a lot of time, energy and money on trying to bring this used unit up to standard. I always thoroughly clean the stove after every 6 bags of pellets and cleaning out the exhaust blower, combustion blower, using rubber mallet and beat the sides and back of the fire box (after removing the firebrick), cleaning out the troft behind the back wall through the 2 holes behind the firebrick, exhaust pipes, etc.
I am a new pellet stove owner and have only purchased 2 tons of pellets this winter. The first ton was Indeck hardwood and the current/recent ton is Ozark hardwood.
I just installed a new low limit switch and combution motor and I've gotten a much improved flame/fire!
But, I've had the stove at HR-5 for over an hour now and it is only putting out heated air of 152 degrees (heat taken with instant read thermometer). I would think it should be putting out much hotter air than that! Correct?
My fuel feed rate is: HR1 - 2.5 and HR9 - 5.5.
When I have the stove at HR1 through HR4, I have the damper pulled out from 3/4" to the HR4 setting at 1 1/2".
When I have the stove at HR5 I have the damper pulled out 1 3/4".
When I have the stove at HR8 to HR9, I have the damper pulled out all the way.
I'm wondering if I need to raise the fuel rate more? As I hope you can see in the pictures that the level of fuel in my fire box isn't coming up to the level of the axle of the agitator. So can you advise me if I should have more fuel in my fire box? Could that be my problem? I just don't know what other mechanical problem I could have.
I've attached pictures of the fire and the fire box for you to look at regarding the quality of the fire. It is much easier for you to actually see what kind of fire I have than me trying to explain/describe the type of fire I have.
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Posted 1 year, 4 months ago
by goode2shoes
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I thought I would post these pictures to show how my stove performed prior to installing a new combustion blower.
Everyone has been so very helpful and nice with all the advice and responses in my previous posts and I wanted to show everyone what I was dealing with, which wasn’t pretty.
I know I’m a novice and a stumbling student of a pellet stove but even I knew I had problems!
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Posted 1 year, 4 months ago
by goode2shoes
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I thought I would post these pictures to show how my stove performed prior to installing a new combustion blower.
Everyone has been so very helpful and nice with all the advice and responses in my previous posts and I wanted to show everyone what I was dealing with, which wasn't pretty.
I know I'm a novice and a stumbling student of a pellet stove but even I knew I had problems!
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Posted 1 year, 4 months ago
by goode2shoes
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I’ve read so many posts that stated that members are heating their homes with this model of pellet stove.
I’ve invested a lot of time,effort and money into our used 6039 and I’m not getting the result that other’s brag about.
Of course different fuels will give different results, etc. I’m wondering if my unit should be insulated to hold the heat on the heat chambers. I’m curious to find out if everyone’s firebox is insulated or not.
I find it curious that the top front of our firebox has insulation but no where else????
I’ve attached 3 pictures depicting what my 6039 looks like for review and comments/suggestions.
Any comments, suggestions, advice, information would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted 1 year, 4 months ago
by goode2shoes
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I ended up buying Ozark Hardwood Pellets from TSC because Home Depot was out of the Bayou Pellets!
On my first bag of the Ozarks, there are 2 things I do not like. 1) they are long pellets! 2) the bags have dust in them from the pellets.
I guess I got spoiled with my first pellet purchase of Indeck's. They were CLEAN and medium sized pellets.
Like I mentioned, my first bag of Ozark's is in my stove now, so we will see.............
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Posted 1 year, 4 months ago
by goode2shoes
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AC wrote:
Yes I only use the leaf blower after a complete shut down and after I have completed my normal cleaning, no hot embers. I also have 3" Simpson DuraVent Corn/Pellet, the opening on the leaf blower vacuum was 5 inches. I went to the local lowes and went to the pellet vent area. Took a piece of vent over to the pvc area. Found a thick wall pvc adapter that was 4 3/4 OSD on one end and fit the vent on the other (3 1/2 ISD). Removed the vacuum guard on the blower and siliconed the adapter on. So you could use any leaf blower that has the vacuum feature. If you have a clean out tee at the bottom of your 3 foot vertical and enough room underneath you can attach it there. I remove my vertical pipe and attach it direct to the horizontal. I only do it once a month so it is not that much extra work. After I start it I open and close the stove door a couple of times. Have used the same blower for 5 years and it is still working great.
Thank you SO MUCH AC for giving me this detail adaption to the leaf blower! I can't tell you how much it helps me out! I can't wait to get to Home Depot, put everything together and see how much crude comes out of my stove! LOL
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Posted 1 year, 4 months ago
by goode2shoes
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I'll do my best to get over to Home Depot and get a couple of bags and let you know.
I couldn't find anywhere on the bag that said "oak"! You are sure they are oak?
I'm wondering if they will burn better than the Indeck. Any thoughts?
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Posted 1 year, 4 months ago
by goode2shoes
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AC wrote:
I've read in a posting something about using a leaf blower but wouldn't that blow ash into the stove via indirect air current?
You have to use a leaf blower with the vacuum feature, you attach on the vent pipe outside the house and suck the ash out. I use it once a month and it works great, for those hard to reach areas. Search this forum there are threads that cover this.
This is the one I use. www.walmart.com/ip/Weed-Eater-Electric-B...r-and-Vacuum/8342676
Here is one in operation
Loved the video! I watch it over and over again! LOL
What size of exhaust pipe do you have? I have the 3" Simpson DuraVent Corn/Pellet Exhaust system.
I hate to order this blower if it will not fit my inner lining pipe or the outer liner pipe!
Input please?
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Posted 1 year, 4 months ago
by goode2shoes
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