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I am proud to announce that I finally figured out the problem. The room blowers were cooling off the thermo discs. I removed the room blower and insulated the discs with fire proof insulation. I put it around the opening that the removed room blower left. All this basically did was block the wind from getting to the discs and cooling them off. You guys were right, i am enjoying my "new" stove. Thank you again.
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Posted 3 months, 3 weeks ago
by jeffreyleb0wsk1
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I think I figured something out. First, I took the disc with me to the shop and got the same one. Upon further review, the previous owner had a 95 degree where a 110 should have been. Second the new one I purchased, doesn't work. Placed it where the auto off one is, and the auto off won't work. Will having a 95 where it calls for 110 cause this issue?
Another new finding. Since they were all 95, I took the one I've been jumping on (auto off disc) and placed it where the 110 should go. I figured since it worked when I jumped it should work if it is in the 110 spot. Boy, I was wrong. Does the same thing.
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Posted 4 months ago
by jeffreyleb0wsk1
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jeffreyleb0wsk1 wrote:
tfgrower wrote:
jeffreyleb0wsk1 wrote:
Bought a new thermal disc today. At the store, gentleman said that another reason my room fan could be turning off is the blower is cooling the disc down. If I cover it with insulation, it will also fix the problem. So, I put the new disc in. Problem continued. I wrap it in installation, problem still continues:(
Jeff, JUmp wires again to see if fans work. If they do new disc don't work. Double check that new disc is right disc. Return if bad 
Jumped wires. Fan works like expected. So I just did a two hour round trip to buy a bad disc. Ugh
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Posted 4 months ago
by jeffreyleb0wsk1
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tfgrower wrote:
jeffreyleb0wsk1 wrote:
Bought a new thermal disc today. At the store, gentleman said that another reason my room fan could be turning off is the blower is cooling the disc down. If I cover it with insulation, it will also fix the problem. So, I put the new disc in. Problem continued. I wrap it in installation, problem still continues:(
Jeff, JUmp wires again to see if fans work. If they do new disc don't work. Double check that new disc is right disc. Return if bad
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Posted 4 months ago
by jeffreyleb0wsk1
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Bought a new thermal disc today. At the store, gentleman said that another reason my room fan could be turning off is the blower is cooling the disc down. If I cover it with insulation, it will also fix the problem. So, I put the new disc in. Problem continued. I wrap it in installation, problem still continues:(
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
If you put a couple of spade ends on a jumper wire you can use stove till then.
Considering I had to google what you are referring to, I might just have to wait until Monday. 
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
jeffreyleb0wsk1 wrote:
tfgrower wrote:
jeffreyleb0wsk1 wrote:
tfgrower wrote:
Happy to help
Found the part, cost will be $8.
Did you jump old one and found it defective.
Yes, I did the switch around like you stated and found that it is indeed my thermo disc.
Your going to love your new 4100  Don't forget to unplug when swapping good for bad and keep us updated
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I can't wait. Won't be able to get the new disc until Monday. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
jeffreyleb0wsk1 wrote:
tfgrower wrote:
Happy to help
Found the part, cost will be $8.
Did you jump old one and found it defective.
Yes, I did the switch around like you stated and found that it is indeed my thermo disc.
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
Happy to help
Found the part, cost will be $8.
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
I was just saying that if you wiggle switch when fans are not working, you may find that switch is irratic therefore being your problem. You can try and find a local dealer, a dealer on board or call company.
Calling a dealer right now actually. Again, tfg I can't thank you enough for your help.
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
I was just saying that if you wiggle switch when fans are not working, you may find that switch is irratic therefore being your problem.
Gotcha
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
Good, upper right should say 110*, but that is the one. Also the next malfuntion wiggle switch a little just for fun. Both parts to gather shouldn't cost but $25.
tfg,
Once again you amaze me!! Where do I get the switch at? What is the "next malfunction wiggle switch"?
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
Your in the right door Jeff but wrong end of wires. Look at stove body on upper right. That is Room air thermo disc. When fire is burning but fans don't work, jump the two wires togather to see if fans work. If they do replace thermo disc. If not the control may be bad. Either fix is inexpensive. If you go to site I sent you to yesterday, you can print out a pdf file manual for your 4100.
Only attaching this picture to confirm because I took it already. Is this the right spot.
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Posted 4 months ago
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command_z wrote:
You can test if that disc is working. There will be three discs together. I believe that the top one is for the auger, middle is room air, bottom is Auto Off switch. Try hooking wires from the middle switch to the bottom switch. If the room blower keeps running replace middle disc.
I might need a little guidance when it comes to wires. Are these the correct ones?
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
Well better find a dealer and buy a thermo disc. It can't be hot motors because they both would not shut off at same time. Find a dealer on left or perhaps a dealer on this site will help you.
www.cornstoves.info/amaiz_hm.html
tfg,
As an experiment, I ran some corn through the stove. Didn't shut it down to clean before and started it right as the pellets were running out. I figured if the thermo disc is bad, then I will get the same results regardless of what fuel I burn. Surprisingly, with the corn it didn't matter what the feed rate was, the room fan wouldn't turn off. I believe, when running corn, that the stove was functioning the way it was designed to. It functioned like it did before I installed the conversion kit.
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
jeffreyleb0wsk1 wrote:
tfgrower wrote:
He is using with pellets but may work with corn. It would be perfect with a mix also.
Are you getting more heat Jeff
TFG, I am getting more heat. The house was up to 72 degrees Sunday morning with outside temp. at 6 degrees. Before opening the valve, the house would have been struggling to maintain 62 degrees. I am so thankful to you and cz. Simply amazing.
Last night I was wanting to see what it could now do after a good cleaning, still need to get something to get behind the baffle wall. I had room fan wide open and feed rate at 3. I couldn't be happier.
I like the potato masher idea. I want to find a way to be able to remove ash and clinker without needing to shut the stove down. It is such a messy job cleaning the stove each time I shut it down.
A bent coat hanger will get you by and tapping back baffle with small hammer or tool will help. It is important there is no build up back there.
By cleaning stove each time you clean pot, to what extent are you cleaning?
It sounds like stove is working pretty well,that's good.
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I was away for a conference. Upon returning home last night, armed with a new dryer lint brush, I was ready to have my stove running like the "pros". I cleaned the stove behind the baffle wall. I cleaned the pipes, top row and bottom, with a toothbrush. I used the air compressor in the exhaust hole. I cleaned that thing like I never cleaned before. My arms were covered black up to my elbows. I turn the stove on. Set the feed rate at 5, room blower wide open, and with in 5 minutes the room blower turns off because the fire, despite burn hot and high, isn't keeping the heat things open. My wife reported that this started happening the day after I reported that we are burning hot. Unfortunately, that no longer is true. Ugh!!!!
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Posted 4 months ago
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tfgrower wrote:
He is using with pellets but may work with corn. It would be perfect with a mix also.
Are you getting more heat Jeff
TFG, I am getting more heat. The house was up to 72 degrees Sunday morning with outside temp. at 6 degrees. Before opening the valve, the house would have been struggling to maintain 62 degrees. I am so thankful to you and cz. Simply amazing.
Last night I was wanting to see what it could now do after a good cleaning, still need to get something to get behind the baffle wall. I had room fan wide open and feed rate at 3. I couldn't be happier.
I like the potato masher idea. I want to find a way to be able to remove ash and clinker without needing to shut the stove down. It is such a messy job cleaning the stove each time I shut it down.
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Posted 4 months, 1 week ago
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tfgrower wrote:
jeffreyleb0wsk1 wrote:
tfgrower wrote:
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cz How is the potato masher holding up?
Great! I think it will last the rest of the burning season. Plus, it's just too easy to use. I'm glad I ran out of hardware cloth and was forced to try it.
That is amazing! I just ordered 4 stainless steel ones for $2.00@ + shipping. Stainless will last longer than carbon steel. Is yours stainless? Having to think outside of the box is a good thing  I was just running out of #9 and 1/4 mesh so thout I'd try this first. Do you just whack off the ashes and put it back in each use or use two?
I must ask what you guys are talking about.
www.iburncorn.com/new-forum/8-general-co...clinker-remover-tool
That idea is awesome. Do you use it for pellets or just corn?
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Posted 4 months, 1 week ago
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tfgrower wrote:
command_z wrote:
tfgrower wrote:
cz How is the potato masher holding up?
Great! I think it will last the rest of the burning season. Plus, it's just too easy to use. I'm glad I ran out of hardware cloth and was forced to try it.
That is amazing! I just ordered 4 stainless steel ones for $2.00@ + shipping. Stainless will last longer than carbon steel. Is yours stainless? Having to think outside of the box is a good thing I was just running out of #9 and 1/4 mesh so thout I'd try this first. Do you just whack off the ashes and put it back in each use or use two?
I must ask what you guys are talking about.
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Posted 4 months, 1 week ago
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What seems weird here is that the room blower is completely independant from fuel feed rate. The room blower simply blows air across the heat exchanger tubes to throw the heat from the tubes out the front of the stove. The combustion blower is responsible for keeping the fire going. So what happens if you turn the room blower all the way dowm low? The fire goes out? Or is it the other way around. With the fuel turned down the room blower stops? If the latter is true it sounds like excessive ash build up behind the baffle that is creating insulation between the heat and the snap disk. Heat sensitive snap disks are what turn the auger and blower on and off. It sounds like you have to maintain a fairly large fire to keep the disk open that runs the blower. Use a dryer lint brush to clean behind the baffle. You will have to bend it to fit between the baffle and the heat exchanger. Ash will fall to the bottom when you scrape the sides. The small gaps at the bottom of the baffle will allow you to vacuum the ash out. The ash in this area is what acts as insulation thus giving a lower temp reading to the disk. When working correctly you should be able to set the fuel rate at whatever setting you choose and the room blower as low or as high as you wish.
dryer vent brush
You're correct, I have to maintain a fairly large fire to keep the disk open that runs the blower. So, I just need to give it a good cleaning and I'll be all set?
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Posted 4 months, 1 week ago
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